ABOUT THE PODCAST
We started this because conversations change culture before policies ever do.
Why it exists
Most conversations about inclusion happen in rooms designed to make everyone comfortable — which usually means they change very little. We wanted something different: unscripted, specific conversations with people actually doing the work of rethinking leadership, workplaces and what it means to belong.
Most conversations about inclusion happen in rooms designed to make everyone comfortable — which usually means they change very little. We wanted something different.
Every episode starts from the same question: what would change if we designed for the way people actually are, not the way we assume them to be?
A shift isn't a single big moment. It's the accumulation of small ones — a question asked differently, a room designed with more people in mind, a leader who chooses curiosity over certainty.
A shift isn't a single big moment. It's the accumulation of small ones.
YOUR HOST
Nic Nagtzaam
Nic Nagtzaam is the host of The Inclusive Shift, a podcast dedicated to exploring what it really takes to build workplaces that embrace neurodiversity. Nic’s passion for neuro-inclusion is deeply personal, driven by his lived experience as a neurodivergent professional and a parent to two AuDHD sons. His advocacy journey began when researching his children's diagnoses, which led him to dismantle neurotypical assumptions in his parenting, adapt his corporate leadership style, and pursue self-understanding as a neurodivergent individual. Professionally, Nic serves as the co-chair of a corporate Neurodiversity Employee Resource Group (ERG), where he actively leads initiatives to foster psychological safety, universal design, and tailored workplace adjustments. Driven by a mission to dismantle workplace barriers for the next generation so his children enter an environment where they can thrive, Nic uses the podcast to amplify lived experiences, bridge communication gaps, and guide leaders toward meaningful structural change.
Nic’s passion for neuro-inclusion is deeply personal, driven by his lived experience as a neurodivergent professional and a parent.
What to expect
One real conversation
No panels, no scripts — just a conversation with one person who's changed how they think about inclusion.
No panels, no scripts — just one honest conversation.
Every other week
New episodes land every other Tuesday, with the occasional bonus conversation.
New episodes land every other Tuesday.
Built to be shared
Full transcripts and key quotes with every episode, so ideas travel past the audio.
Full transcripts with every episode.
Your story could be next
If you're neurodivergent and have something to say about work, we'd like to hear it. You can speak for yourself, with or without an organisation behind you.